"I am thankful for our capitalist economy, because despite your incomprehensible belief that destroying it will make this a better world, it in fact allowed us to live in greater freedom and opportunity than we would have had otherwise."
I've read this whole thread, and you obviously see things in black and white. Either you're a commie (if you support not being a wastefdul over-consumer), or a capitalist. Wrong. I, too, support a capitalist-based economy; there are (surprise) many different ways to support capitalism and implement it. The simple truth is that North Americans are extremely *wasteful* capitalists. "Waste" and "capitalism" do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. There are a number of societies in this world which have capitalist-based economies, yet are not gluttons. Furthermore, despite all your protestations, I fail to see how over-consumption and waste make the world a better place. Quite the contrary, they're destroying it: the shambles of the environment is just the most obvious symptom of this destruction.
There are a number of other points I fully disagree with you on, but mogador and blustocking have done a fine job contending them, already. I just wanted to point out that things are not as extremist as you present them, and the world would be doing just fine - probably better - were it not for the extreme waste which overconsumption has bred. If that makes me a commie, so be it.
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Date: 2002-12-04 10:46 am (UTC)I've read this whole thread, and you obviously see things in black and white. Either you're a commie (if you support not being a wastefdul over-consumer), or a capitalist. Wrong. I, too, support a capitalist-based economy; there are (surprise) many different ways to support capitalism and implement it. The simple truth is that North Americans are extremely *wasteful* capitalists. "Waste" and "capitalism" do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. There are a number of societies in this world which have capitalist-based economies, yet are not gluttons. Furthermore, despite all your protestations, I fail to see how over-consumption and waste make the world a better place. Quite the contrary, they're destroying it: the shambles of the environment is just the most obvious symptom of this destruction.
There are a number of other points I fully disagree with you on, but mogador and blustocking have done a fine job contending them, already. I just wanted to point out that things are not as extremist as you present them, and the world would be doing just fine - probably better - were it not for the extreme waste which overconsumption has bred. If that makes me a commie, so be it.
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Date: 2002-12-05 12:30 pm (UTC)Ah the good ol' days of Kat-dom and cool-ass people at Spookyland. The troll-hunting and the discussions. *sighs* :)