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It's 4:10 in the morning and my normal indecisiveness has turned into a drooling monster quietly gnawing on my brain whilst lolling his eyes and saying "duhhhhhrrrrr"....so, which one of the first 9 of these do you think I should submit to this.

And I apologize if you can't see it. I think you might have to have a JPG account.

Date: 2007-02-16 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nic.livejournal.com
Geometry, Ellen #2 and Ellen #1 are my top three, in that order. Such a pain JPGMag only let you use one photo :)

Those are wicked photos, by the way.

wow, thank you!

Date: 2007-02-16 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm debating...geometry is in my top choices too. Thank you very, very much. Maybe now I can just sleep on it rather than sitting here staring at them or going through tons of other photos to find more.

I swear I'm the most indecisive person in the world.

Re: wow, thank you!

Date: 2007-02-16 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nic.livejournal.com
If you're anything like me, you stare so much they cease to mean anything. You need to come to them fresh and feel that instant feeling you get in the first second of gazing on it. When I'm editing photos, cropping or toning: You kinda need to walk away for a bit just to check you've done the right thing.

Go to bed :)

Re: wow, thank you!

Date: 2007-02-16 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Yeah, I do that, especially with painting...same with writing.

I did! WOO!

Date: 2007-02-16 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livingimpaired.livejournal.com
I'm really liking geometry and clinical death #2. Hope you got some sleep Jill!

Date: 2007-02-16 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Thank you! I did. I submitted Clinical Death #2 for the "Entropy" catagory. Keep your fingers crossed! I could use $100. ;)

Date: 2007-02-17 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livingimpaired.livejournal.com
:crossing fingers:

Date: 2007-02-16 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ponsonbybritt.livejournal.com
If it's not too late, given their theme of sexuality (and not just which ones I like best), I think Geometry or Ellen #1 best fit the bill.

I don't know anything about these contests, but perhaps you can take a look at what's won in the past to see if there's some sort of pattern of what people tend to like.

Let us know when you submit!

Date: 2007-02-16 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
I'm going to submit it right now. I've already submitted for the other two catagories.

I think I'll go with Geometry, but I'm worried about the "artsiness" of it. When I think Suicide Girls, I think more #1 or 5 and 6. But, maybe it rides the line. Who knows. I'm overanalyzing my own damn work.

Date: 2007-02-16 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] locopuff.livejournal.com
Ellen 1 and gometry are the best.

Date: 2007-02-16 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Hmmm, I think geometry wins it then. THANK YOU MS. LOCO!

Date: 2007-02-16 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jnglboogi.livejournal.com
once again this was hard cuz they're all so damn good...but i gotta go with Geometry, Ellen #6, Ellen #5 (in that order)

(there's sumthin sexy about a beeotch w/a gun)
heh

I agree!

Date: 2007-02-16 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
I rather like 5 and 6 as well.
Hmmm. But Geometry seems to be on top with everyone and it is one that I have hanging up in my apt. Soooo....okay, enough talk about my photos.

Thank you for the damn fine compliment.
DAMN FINE.

If it is not too late...

Date: 2007-02-18 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
Helen 3 is my fav (there is a lot of interesting stuff going on there) but the strongest image is Geometry

thank you

Date: 2007-02-18 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
That's the one that I was initially going to submit. I rather like it too, sticks to my notion of "beauty".

But I did submit Geometry. Still, I rather like having your opinion on these photographic matters.

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-02-19 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
weeeeell...
Then I will take this opportunity to point something out:

When shooting full figures, I hate it when peeps cut off the feet. Shoot by sections. You can cut by the shoulders, by the waist down to the knees but bellow knee and feet.... One follows the legs off the image.
It is just an opinion, if not a peeve. =)
One gets the weird perception to be looking inside a box or though a window rather than being present in the space of the image. Of course, that can be used wisely in specific concepts but otherwise, it removes the viewer from "the space".

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-02-19 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Hmm, an interesting thought. However, not only does it not bother me, but I often find it more aesthetically pleasing, and the reverse to be just as true.

It's similar in painting. Cutting off body parts at the edge, the feet, allows the viewer's mind to fill in the rest. There is the suggestion of space continuing on outside the edge. We don't assume they're footless/armless/headless, our brains fill in the rest. For me, cutting it off, adds more of a sense of being in "the space" than having the figure take up the full-frame. You're setting the boundaries and asking nothing of the viewer. It's in those times that I'm most conscious of the window/box/frame of the photo.

I'd shoot full-figure if I were doing formal poses, but otherwise, I think I'd only do it if there were a lot of foreground or the scenery was important to the shot.
As someone who's drawn to boxes/windows, that may be something I choose to do unconsciously.

But like you said, that's just my opinon. :)

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-02-19 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
aaah but the border of the image, or frame or the passe partout then integrates the image!
Anarchy then ensues and the world ends.

I like your approach. If we all did the same thing, art would be boring.

....in landscapes, do you center the horizon?

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-02-19 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Jeez man, is there a landscape rule too?
I don't know. I do what looks right to me. Depends on the situation.

Here's a question...if the horizon isn't in the center, IS it a landscape? Ooooo. Say you were taking a beach shot and the water was 3/4 of the picture. Is that a landscape? Or a waterscape. Bwahaha.

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-02-19 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
There is a landscape rule that I never paid attention to: Never center it because it divides the image.

-I had a bit of a rigid first year =P
Still, I think about it every time I shoot a fucking landscape.
I mean, what happens when I have 70% sky?
Oh the ho-rror.

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-02-19 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Yeah, I guess I could see that. But that, really, should be second nature. If a straight fucking line of land right through the middle of your picture is pleasing to you, there might be bigger problems.

4 out of 5 professors agree, 70% sky means you're an asshole.

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-02-20 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
Hey screw you, I like clouds!
One thing I can't stand though: Skies shot in B&W without at least a polarizer or a yellow (if not darker) filter.

do you like puppies too?

Date: 2007-02-20 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
That, is true. And I currently don't have any filters for the new camera. There's a Hoya set on my wishlist.

Re: do you like puppies too?

Date: 2007-02-20 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
Not really. I'm a cat person =P
I have both Hoya and Cokin. I have found Cokin to be less of a nuisance since all I need is a few adapter rings and I can use them in any camera while the Hoyas are of a set circumference and therefore less interchangeable. Also, cokins has a wider variety of filters available cheaply on e-bay.
Anyway, what you really really need is a good polarizer.
There is no filter more essential than a polarizer.

Re: do you fondle your polarizer?

Date: 2007-02-20 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Well spank my giblets, I just bought a Cokin polarizer for $10 (with shipping). WOOOOOOEEEEEE.

I like how I worry about rent and will soon start donating plasma, but photographic eBay purchases are A-ok.

Oy.

Date: 2007-02-19 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
It is also my "opinion".
Mother eff.

Thank you though, I'll take both shots from now on and see what it does.

Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-19 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
eh
You already know I am a dick so I rather give you a good opinion than OMG U SO GUD!!1ONE
I keep getting that in my LJ.

You shoot digital. All you are wasting is memory space. Shoot from all angles, all frames. I often burn a whole film on 1 subject and I will only consider 1 image out of 36.

Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-19 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
No, I truly appreciate that. Plus, it gives me a chance to get the gears turning and actually THINK about art.

I do shoot a lot of frames. I went back and looked at that particular image and tried to imagine it with the feet in frame. I think it would have ruined the negative space surrounding her. Plus, it was a tough corner, small space. It is something to think about though.

And I'm taking my Holga and 35mm down to New Orleans in March. Whole different mindset. Kinda nervous. Not that I haven't shot traditional, just been awhile...and I'm nowhere near having the technical ability that you have.

Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-19 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com

You don't need a mindset for a Holga! If you have broken the H in before, you probably know what to expect and if there is a camera that requires little tech skill, it's the Holga. I have an Fn and a 120s. Both quirky and bitchy and there is not much I can do about it =)
Still, back it up. You don't wanna miss a great shot because the Holga is acting up. Such is their nature and fun.

Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-19 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
Yeah, I meant more the 35mm mindset. I've been shooting digital straight for over year. I have a 120s too. Hey, what's the difference between a 120s and a 120n?

Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-20 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
120 fn has a flash =)
I got it off French ebay for 5 euros!

Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-20 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
My bad, I must have the 120sf...it has a flash.

I'm impressed with those sample photos on the 120N.


Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blustocking.livejournal.com
The website is amazingly unhelpful.
From what I could find, this seems to be the difference:

"a brass tripod socket, bulb exposure setting, and foam cushion film tensioner"

Re: Oy.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-muad-dib.livejournal.com
well shiaaaat
I just gone and learn-ned somethin'
aaaaaand it's past 4 am here.
G'nite!

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